History, 1838–1856, volume C-1 [2 November 1838–31 July 1842]

  • Source Note
  • Historical Introduction
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<October 12> to be “why I go to Church or Chapel and get my children christened, what  more is necessary”? When we conversed with the learned, we found them too  wise to be taught, and too much established in the traditions of their Fathers  to expect any change in the last days— While conversing with the Ministers  of the various orders of the day, upon the principles of the gospel, they would  inform us that the ancient order of things was done away, and no longer needed;  and some of them had preached forty years the good old religion, and God  was with them, and they needed no more revelation, or healing the sick,  or any thing as manifest in the days of the Apostles, for we can get along  without them in this day of refinement, light and knowledge— When we  arose to preach unto the people repentance and baptism for the remission  of sins, the cry of “Baptist, Baptist,” would be rung in our ears. If we spoke  of the church and body of Christ being composed of Prophets and Apostles,  as well as other members, “Irvinites, Irvinites,” would immediately dash  into the mind. If, in the midst of our remarks, we even for once suffered  the saying to drop from our lips “the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of  prophesy,” “O you belong to Joanna Southcoats”! would be heard from—  several places at once— If we spoke of the second coming of Christ, the  cry would be “Aithenites.” If we made mention of the Priesthood, they would  call us “Catholics.” If we testified of the ministering of angels, the people  would reply the Irvinites have their angels, and even the Duke of Normandy  is ready to swear that he has the administering of angels every night”— These  salutations in connexion with a multitude of others, of a similar nature”—  continued to salute our ears from day to day, until we were about ready to  conclude that London had been such a perfect depot of the systems of the  nineteenth century, that it contained six hundred three score and six different  Gods, gospels, Redeemers, plans of salvation, religions, churches, commandments,  essential and non essential, orders of preaching, roads to heaven and to hell:  and that this order of things had so affected the minds of the people, that it  almost required a trump to be blown from the highest heavens, in order  to awaken the attention of the people, and prepare their minds to  candidly hear and receive the doctrine of one gospel, one faith, one baptism,  one Holy Ghost, one God and one plan of salvation and that such as Christ  and the Apostles preached— But notwithstanding this we do not feel  discouraged concerning a work being perfected in London but firmly  believe that — — — — — many souls embrace the fulness of the gospel there,  though it will be through faith, diligence perserverance, and prayer. Having  spent 23 days together in this first mission in the Metropolis and the time  drawing near for our October Conference, left the City on the  10th. of September for the purpose of attending several Conferences; he attended the  Bran Green and Gadfield Elm Conference held in Worcestershire on the 14th. of  September, and also the Frooms Hill Conference held in Herefordshire on the 21st. of  September; at these two Conferences he heard represented, 40 <branches of the Church>  containing 1007 Members, and 113 officers, viz; 19 Elders, 78 Priests, 15 Teachers, [p. 1112]
October 12 to be “why I go to Church or Chapel and get my children christened, what more is necessary”? When we conversed with the learned, we found them too wise to be taught, and too much established in the traditions of their Fathers to expect any change in the last days— While conversing with the Ministers of the various orders of the day, upon the principles of the gospel, they would inform us that the ancient order of things was done away, and no longer needed; and some of them had preached forty years the good old religion, and God was with them, and they needed no more revelation, or healing the sick, or any thing as manifest in the days of the Apostles, for we can get along without them in this day of refinement, light and knowledge— When we arose to preach unto the people repentance and baptism for the remission of sins, the cry of “Baptist, Baptist,” would be rung in our ears. If we spoke of the church and body of Christ being composed of Prophets and Apostles, as well as other members, “Irvinites, Irvinites,” would immediately dash into the mind. If, in the midst of our remarks, we even for once suffered the saying to drop from our lips “the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy,” “O you belong to Joanna Southcoats”! would be heard from— several places at once— If we spoke of the second coming of Christ, the cry would be “Aithenites.” If we made mention of the Priesthood, they would call us “Catholics.” If we testified of the ministering of angels, the people would reply the Irvinites have their angels, and even the Duke of Normandy is ready to swear that he has the administering of angels every night”— These salutations in connexion with a multitude of others, of a similar nature”— continued to salute our ears from day to day, until we were about ready to conclude that London had been such a perfect depot of the systems of the nineteenth century, that it contained six hundred three score and six different Gods, gospels, Redeemers, plans of salvation, religions, churches, commandments, essential and non essential, orders of preaching, roads to heaven and to hell: and that this order of things had so affected the minds of the people, that it almost required a trump to be blown from the highest heavens, in order to awaken the attention of the people, and prepare their minds to candidly hear and receive the doctrine of one gospel, one faith, one baptism, one Holy Ghost, one God and one plan of salvation and that such as Christ and the Apostles preached— But notwithstanding this we do not feel discouraged concerning a work being perfected in London but firmly believe that — — — — — many souls embrace the fulness of the gospel there, though it will be through faith, diligence perserverance, and prayer. Having spent 23 days together in this first mission in the Metropolis and the time drawing near for our October Conference, left the City on the 10th. of September for the purpose of attending several Conferences; he attended the Bran Green and Gadfield Elm Conference held in Worcestershire on the 14th. of September, and also the Frooms Hill Conference held in Herefordshire on the 21st. of September; at these two Conferences he heard represented, 40 branches of the Church containing 1007 Members, and 113 officers, viz; 19 Elders, 78 Priests, 15 Teachers, [p. 1112]
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