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Discourse, 19 December 1841, as Reported by Wilford Woodruff

Source Note

JS, Discourse, [, Hancock Co., IL, 19 Dec. 1841]. Featured version copied [ca. 19 Dec. 1841] in Wilford Woodruff, Journal, vol. 4, 1 Jan. 1841–31 Dec. 1842, pp. [115]–[116]; handwriting of ; Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898, CHL. For more complete source information, see the source note for Discourse, 7 Nov. 1841.

Historical Introduction

On the evening of Sunday, 19 December 1841, JS delivered a discourse at his home in , Illinois, on revelation and several other subjects. , who was present on the occasion, recorded summaries and excerpts of JS’s teachings in his journal. Though Woodruff did not comment on the length of JS’s discourse, he noted that JS spoke after sermons by and and that JS was followed by , who briefly commented on the importance of building a in Nauvoo.
According to , JS read and explained the parable of the vine in John chapter 15 and then addressed a variety of other topics, most notably revelation, chastisement, and instruction from God. JS was apparently responding to the concern of some church members that he was a fallen prophet either because he delivered revelation less frequently than in times past or because he provided revelation containing direction that differed from earlier revealed instruction. JS may have been countering these criticisms by teaching the need for continuing revelation and for humility in accepting chastisement and new direction from God. JS also addressed the importance of being able to keep secrets and spoke about love.
mainly paraphrased the content of the sermon, but he enclosed various phrases within quotation marks, indicating his attempt to capture some of JS’s exact words. Woodruff also recorded an account of this discourse in his “Book of Revelations,” likely around the same time. It is possible that both texts were copied from earlier notes he made on the occasion. However, the expanded version from his journal, featured here, likely served as the original source for the more abbreviated version in his Book of Revelations. The two instances of significant textual difference are identified in footnotes below.

Footnotes

  1. [1]

    Roberts was a church member living on the bluff near the Nauvoo temple construction site, having moved to Nauvoo in fall 1841. He was a blacksmith, carpenter, and wagonmaker with a shop on Water and Bain streets. (Nauvoo, IL, Tax List, 1842, p. 232, microfilm 7,706, U.S. and Canada Record Collection, FHL; Woodruff, Journal, 29 Sept. 1841; Pioneer Women of Faith and Fortitude, 3:2613; Miller, Westward Migration of the Mormons with Special Emphasis on the History of Nauvoo, 307, 325; Advertisement, Nauvoo Neighbor, 8 Nov. 1843, [4].)

    U.S. and Canada Record Collection. FHL.

    Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

    Pioneer Women of Faith and Fortitude. 4 vols. Salt Lake City: Daughters of Utah Pioneers, 1998.

    Miller, David E. Westward Migration of the Mormons with Special Emphasis on the History of Nauvoo. Salt Lake City: University of Utah, 1963.

    Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

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    Woodruff, Journal, 19 Dec. 1841.

    Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

  3. [3]

    Woodruff, “Book of Revelations,” [2]–[3].

    Woodruff, Wilford. “Book of Revelations,” ca. 1837–1860. CHL.

Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation. *Discourse, 19 December 1841, as Reported by Wilford Woodruff Discourse, 19 December 1841, as Recorded in Woodruff, Book of Revelations History, 1838–1856, volume C-1 Addenda “History of Joseph Smith”
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when A man is chastized he gets angry & will not endure it. The reason we do not have the secrets of the Lord revealed unto us is because we do not keep them but reveal them, we do not keep our own secrets but reveal our difficulties to the world even to our enemies then how would we keep the secrets of the Lord Joseph says I can keep a secret till dooms day
He spoke of love what greater love hath any man than that he lay down his life for his friend then why not fight for our friend untill we die & many other things of interest was spoken. [p. [116]]
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Discourse, 19 December 1841, as Reported by Wilford Woodruff
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Footnotes

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    The material from this point to “He spoke of love” is not included in the Book of Revelations version. (See Woodruff, “Book of Revelations,” [3].)

    Woodruff, Wilford. “Book of Revelations,” ca. 1837–1860. CHL.

  2. [5]

    See John 15:13.

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