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Discourse, 7 March 1844–A, as Reported by Wilford Woodruff

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JS, Discourse, [
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Hancock Co., IL, 7 Mar. 1844]. Featured version inscribed [ca. 7 Mar. 1844] in Wilford Woodruff, Journal, vol. 5, 1 Jan. 1843–31 Dec. 1844, pp. [198]–[200]; handwriting of
Wilford Woodruff

1 Mar. 1807–2 Sept. 1898. Farmer, miller. Born at Farmington, Hartford Co., Connecticut. Son of Aphek Woodruff and Beulah Thompson. Moved to Richland, Oswego Co., New York, 1832. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Zera Pulsipher,...

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; Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, CHL. For more complete source information, see the source note for Discourse, 17 Jan. 1843, as Reported by Wilford Woodruff.

Historical Introduction

See Historical Introduction to Discourse, 7 Mar. 1844–A, as Reported by Willard Richards.
Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation. *Discourse, 7 March 1844–A, as Reported by Willard Richards Journal, December 1842–June 1844; Book 4, 1 March–22 June 1844 *Discourse, 7 March 1844–A, as Reported by Wilford Woodruff *Discourse, 7 March 1844–A, as Reported by Charles A. Foster History, 1838–1856, volume E-1 [1 July 1843–30 April 1844] “History of Joseph Smith”

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Some would complain with what God himself would do, the laws are enacted by petition and they can all be repealed if they wish it but the people ought not to complain of the officers but to complain at the law makers, I am instructed by the City Council to tell this people that if you do not like any law we have passed we will repeal it for we are your servants, Any that complain of our rights and Charters it is because they are wicked the devil is in them,
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Nauvoo’s city charter had long been a subject of criticism, including in discussions in the state legislature to repeal it. (See, for example, “The Mormon Plot and League,” Sangamo Journal [Springfield, IL], 8 July 1842, [2]; “Gov. Duncan,” Times and Seasons, 1 June 1842, 3:806; “Illinois Legislature,” Sangamo Journal, 15 Dec. 1842, [2]; and “Report of the Committee on the Judiciary . . . in relation to the Nauvoo City Charter,” Reports Made to Senate and House of Representatives of the State of Illinois, Senate, 13th Assembly, 1st Sess., pp. 127–130.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Sangamo Journal. Springfield, IL. 1831–1847.

Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

Reports Made to the Senate and House of Representatives of the State of Illinois, at Their Session Begun and Held at Springfield, December 2, 1844. Vol. 1. Springfield, IL: Walters and Weber, 1845.

the reason I called it up is we have a simple gang of fellows who does not know whare their elbows or head is if you preach virtue to them they will oppose that if you preach the Methodist God to them they will oppose that or any thing els & if their is any case tried they want it appealed to
Carthage

Located eighteen miles southeast of Nauvoo. Settled 1831. Designated Hancock Co. seat, Mar. 1833. Incorporated as town, 27 Feb. 1837. Population in 1839 about 300. Population in 1844 about 400. Site of acute opposition to Latter-day Saints, early 1840s. Site...

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Mr Boswicks [Orsamus F. Bostwick’s]

2 Mar. 1801–9 Aug. 1869. Blacksmith. Born in Hinesburg, Chittenden Co., Vermont. Son of Heman Bostwick and Belinda Palmer. Married first Sarah Eddy, 26 Mar. 1820. Moved to Onondaga, Onondaga Co., New York, by 1829. Married second Sarah Bardwell, 26 Mar. 1830...

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case had to go to
Carthage

Located eighteen miles southeast of Nauvoo. Settled 1831. Designated Hancock Co. seat, Mar. 1833. Incorporated as town, 27 Feb. 1837. Population in 1839 about 300. Population in 1844 about 400. Site of acute opposition to Latter-day Saints, early 1840s. Site...

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our Lawyers will send any thing to
Carthage

Located eighteen miles southeast of Nauvoo. Settled 1831. Designated Hancock Co. seat, Mar. 1833. Incorporated as town, 27 Feb. 1837. Population in 1839 about 300. Population in 1844 about 400. Site of acute opposition to Latter-day Saints, early 1840s. Site...

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. I want to know if the citizens will sustain me when my hands are raised to heaven for the people, I will areign the person before the people that act against the interest of the
City

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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& I will have the voice of the people which is republican and as likely to be the voice of God And as long as long as long as I have a tongue to speak I will expose the iniquity of the Lawyiers and wicked men I fear not their boiling over nor their boiling over
3

The inadvertently duplicated phrase “nor their boiling over” was later canceled in graphite.


nor the boiling over of Hell their thunders & forked lightning. I despise the man that will betray you with a kiss.
4

See Luke 22:47–48.


Here is
Hiram Kimball

31 May 1806–27 Apr. 1863. Merchant, iron foundry operator, mail carrier. Born in West Fairlee, Orange Co., Vermont. Son of Phineas Kimball and Abigail. Moved to Commerce (later Nauvoo), Hancock Co., Illinois, 1833, and established several stores. Married ...

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has set at naught the ordinances of the
City

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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. By saying that He owns the wharf & steem boats need not pay them. Wharefore this body is the highest Court what appeal to
Carthage

Located eighteen miles southeast of Nauvoo. Settled 1831. Designated Hancock Co. seat, Mar. 1833. Incorporated as town, 27 Feb. 1837. Population in 1839 about 300. Population in 1844 about 400. Site of acute opposition to Latter-day Saints, early 1840s. Site...

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. I would not appeal there if i died a thousand deaths.
Kimball

31 May 1806–27 Apr. 1863. Merchant, iron foundry operator, mail carrier. Born in West Fairlee, Orange Co., Vermont. Son of Phineas Kimball and Abigail. Moved to Commerce (later Nauvoo), Hancock Co., Illinois, 1833, and established several stores. Married ...

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[Arthur] Morrison

Ca. 1802–after 1850. Merchant, tailor, militia captain, judge. Born in Virginia. Moved to Batavia, Clermont Co., Ohio, by 1825. Married Keziah Ann Voriz, 17 Nov. 1825, in Clermont Co. Moved to Palestine, Darke Co., Ohio, by 1830. Baptized into Church of Jesus...

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does not own the wharfage Water Street runs along the [p. [199]]
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  1. [2]

    Nauvoo’s city charter had long been a subject of criticism, including in discussions in the state legislature to repeal it. (See, for example, “The Mormon Plot and League,” Sangamo Journal [Springfield, IL], 8 July 1842, [2]; “Gov. Duncan,” Times and Seasons, 1 June 1842, 3:806; “Illinois Legislature,” Sangamo Journal, 15 Dec. 1842, [2]; and “Report of the Committee on the Judiciary . . . in relation to the Nauvoo City Charter,” Reports Made to Senate and House of Representatives of the State of Illinois, Senate, 13th Assembly, 1st Sess., pp. 127–130.)

    Sangamo Journal. Springfield, IL. 1831–1847.

    Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

    Reports Made to the Senate and House of Representatives of the State of Illinois, at Their Session Begun and Held at Springfield, December 2, 1844. Vol. 1. Springfield, IL: Walters and Weber, 1845.

  2. [3]

    The inadvertently duplicated phrase “nor their boiling over” was later canceled in graphite.

  3. [4]

    See Luke 22:47–48.

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