Minutes and Discourses, 6–8 April 1844, as Reported by William Clayton

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The Ld has an est law in relation to the matter. there must be a particular spot for the sal[vation] of our dead. I verily believ this will be the place. hence men who want to save their dead can come and bring their families do their work and return to live and wait till the[y] go to receive their reward. Shall leave the rest for the brethren— tis my duty to teach the doctrine— spt is willing flesh is weak. God is not willing to let me gratify you— but I must teach the Ers and they should teach you He will make me to be God in your stead & they be mouth for me. Have been giving some inst[ructions] to to to speak to you & when he makes a mistake will get up and correct him.
, If c[onference] will give at[tention] will read from scrip[ture]— as the found[ation] of a few remarks for your edification. think, better for Pres S or to make texts than him— will address the sinner— read Obadiah— upon Mount Zion shall be deliverance &c— or in other words Jacob shall possess their possession among the gentiles— prop[het] declares on Mount Zion when they shall possess &c shall come saviours & k. be the Lds.
Wish all to und[erstand] the text— commens 17 v. 1st. as the idea of the establish of Z[ion] amg Gentiles is stumbling block to many— are ready to exclaim we rejoice in the gosple in faith as you preach it rep[entance]— Bap[tism]— Layin hands. G. H. G. [gift of the holy ghost] promise of Gifts as declared by Ers— best oh the idea of Z. God will build literal Z. well of course there will be Z when there will be stakes but will be a starting point. They say why is it if Z is to be est[ablished] why among the gentiles & why calld house of Jacob.— there is reason & of God and will stand— before talk of the saviours— wish to notice for strangers. When we drive them to ack. Z they tell us Z. was to be in Jerusalem— He take position— there shall be a literal Z— in a l place— after Z is plannd in Jer.— a long time after— it has passed away— 1st. fact he wants to establish, read latter pt 3 & fore 4 of Micah— [p. 2 [32]]
The Ld has an est law in relation to the matter. there must be a particular spot for the salvation of our dead. I verily believ this will be the place. hence men who want to save their dead can come and bring their families do their work and return to live and wait till they go to receive their reward. Shall leave the rest for the brethren— tis my duty to teach the doctrine— spt is willing flesh is weak. God is not willing to let me gratify you— but I must teach the Ers and they should teach you He will make me to be God in your stead & they be mouth for me. Have been giving some instructions to to speak to you & when he makes a mistake will get up and correct him.
, If conference will give attention will read from scripture— as the foundation of a few remarks for your edification. think, better for Pres S or to make texts than him— will address the sinner— read Obadiah— upon Mount Zion shall be deliverance &c— or in other words Jacob shall possess their possession among the gentiles— prophet declares on Mount Zion when they shall possess &c shall come saviours & k. be the Lds.
Wish all to understand the text— commens 17 v. 1st. as the idea of the establish of Zion amg Gentiles is stumbling block to many— are ready to exclaim we rejoice in the gosple in faith as you preach it repentance— Baptism— Layin hands. G. H. G. [gift of the holy ghost] promise of Gifts as declared by Ers— best oh the idea of Z. God will build literal Z. well of course there will be Z when there will be stakes but will be a starting point. They say why is it if Z is to be established why among the gentiles & why calld house of Jacob.— there is reason & of God and will stand— before talk of the saviours— wish to notice for strangers. When we drive them to ack. Z they tell us Z. was to be in Jerusalem— He take position— there shall be a literal Z— in a l place— after Z is plannd in Jer.— a long time after— it has passed away— 1st. fact he wants to establish, read latter pt 3 & fore 4 of Micah— [p. 2 [32]]
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