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Account of Meeting and Discourse, 8 February 1844

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Account of Meeting, and JS, Discourse, [
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Hancock Co., IL, 8 Feb. 1844]. Featured version inscribed [ca. 8 Feb. 1844] in Wilford Woodruff, Journal, vol. 5, 1 Jan. 1843–31 Dec. 1844, pp. [192]–[193]; handwriting of
Wilford Woodruff

1 Mar. 1807–2 Sept. 1898. Farmer, miller. Born at Farmington, Hartford Co., Connecticut. Son of Aphek Woodruff and Beulah Thompson. Moved to Richland, Oswego Co., New York, 1832. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Zera Pulsipher,...

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; Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, CHL. For more complete source information, see the source note for Discourse, 17 Jan. 1843, as Reported by Wilford Woodruff.

Historical Introduction

On 8 February 1844, JS attended a political meeting of some of the citizens of
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Illinois, and spoke on his candidacy for president of the
United States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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. He had agreed to run for president ten days earlier, on 29 January, in a meeting of the
Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

Members of a governing body in the church, with special administrative and proselytizing responsibilities. A June 1829 revelation commanded Oliver Cowdery and David Whitmer to call twelve disciples, similar to the twelve apostles in the New Testament and ...

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and other
church

The Book of Mormon related that when Christ set up his church in the Americas, “they which were baptized in the name of Jesus, were called the church of Christ.” The first name used to denote the church JS organized on 6 April 1830 was “the Church of Christ...

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leaders.
1

JS, Journal, 29 Jan. 1844; Minutes and Discourse, 29 Jan. 1844; Clayton, Journal, 29 Jan. 1844.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

Since that meeting, JS had worked with his scribe
William W. Phelps

17 Feb. 1792–7 Mar. 1872. Writer, teacher, printer, newspaper editor, publisher, postmaster, lawyer. Born at Hanover, Morris Co., New Jersey. Son of Enon Phelps and Mehitabel Goldsmith. Moved to Homer, Cortland Co., New York, 1800. Married Sally Waterman,...

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to compose a pamphlet, General Smith’s Views of the Powers and Policy of the Government of the United States, that set forth his political positions.
2

See General Smith’s Views of the Powers and Policy of the Government of the United States, ca. 26 Jan.–7 Feb. 1844.


The 8 February 1844 meeting occurred in a room above JS’s
general store

Located in lower portion of Nauvoo (the flats) along bank of Mississippi River. Completed 1841. Opened for business, 5 Jan. 1842. Owned by JS, but managed mostly by others, after 1842. First floor housed JS’s general store and counting room, where tithing...

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, almost certainly in the main upstairs room, which often accommodated larger meetings. After
Phelps

17 Feb. 1792–7 Mar. 1872. Writer, teacher, printer, newspaper editor, publisher, postmaster, lawyer. Born at Hanover, Morris Co., New Jersey. Son of Enon Phelps and Mehitabel Goldsmith. Moved to Homer, Cortland Co., New York, 1800. Married Sally Waterman,...

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opened the meeting by reading the pamphlet, JS addressed the audience. He explained his reasons for running for president, insisting that it was necessary because he and his fellow Latter-day Saints in the
United States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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repeatedly had been denied their rights as American citizens. Accordingly, his campaign was part of a larger effort to pursue any legal avenue that might result in the protection of the church and its members.
3

See, for example, Ordinance, 8 Dec. 1843; Ordinance, 21 Dec. 1843; and Memorial to the United States Senate and House of Representatives, ca. 24–26 Mar. 1844.


Following JS’s discourse, apostles
Orson Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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and
John Taylor

1 Nov. 1808–25 July 1887. Preacher, editor, publisher, politician. Born at Milnthorpe, Westmoreland, England. Son of James Taylor and Agnes Taylor, members of Church of England. Around age sixteen, joined Methodist church and was local preacher. Migrated ...

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each spoke. Those at the meeting then unanimously indicated their approval of General Smith’s Views.
Scribe
Willard Richards

24 June 1804–11 Mar. 1854. Teacher, lecturer, doctor, clerk, printer, editor, postmaster. Born at Hopkinton, Middlesex Co., Massachusetts. Son of Joseph Richards and Rhoda Howe. Moved to Richmond, Berkshire Co., Massachusetts, 1813; to Chatham, Columbia Co...

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briefly summarized the meeting in JS’s journal but did not describe what any of the speakers, including JS, said in their respective discourses.
4

JS, Journal, 8 Feb. 1844.


However,
Wilford Woodruff

1 Mar. 1807–2 Sept. 1898. Farmer, miller. Born at Farmington, Hartford Co., Connecticut. Son of Aphek Woodruff and Beulah Thompson. Moved to Richland, Oswego Co., New York, 1832. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Zera Pulsipher,...

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recorded JS’s discourse and other details of the meeting in his journal. Woodruff’s account provides a mixture of content summary, written in the third person, and quotations of JS’s remarks, written in the first person as if spoken by JS himself. A brief account of the meeting also appeared in the Times and Seasons and the Nauvoo Neighbor.
5

See “Public Meeting,” Times and Seasons, 15 Feb. 1844, 5:441; and “Public Meeting,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 14 Feb. 1844, [2].


Comprehensive Works Cited

Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

Woodruff’s account—which is the most complete—is the version featured here.

Footnotes

  1. [1]

    JS, Journal, 29 Jan. 1844; Minutes and Discourse, 29 Jan. 1844; Clayton, Journal, 29 Jan. 1844.

    Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

  2. [2]

    See General Smith’s Views of the Powers and Policy of the Government of the United States, ca. 26 Jan.–7 Feb. 1844.

  3. [3]

    See, for example, Ordinance, 8 Dec. 1843; Ordinance, 21 Dec. 1843; and Memorial to the United States Senate and House of Representatives, ca. 24–26 Mar. 1844.

  4. [4]

    JS, Journal, 8 Feb. 1844.

  5. [5]

    See “Public Meeting,” Times and Seasons, 15 Feb. 1844, 5:441; and “Public Meeting,” Nauvoo Neighbor, 14 Feb. 1844, [2].

    Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

    Nauvoo Neighbor. Nauvoo, IL. 1843–1845.

Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation.
*Account of Meeting and Discourse, 8 February 1844
History, 1838–1856, volume E-1 [1 July 1843–30 April 1844] “History of Joseph Smith”

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I met with a congregation of the Citizens in the room over Joseph[’s]
Store

Located in lower portion of Nauvoo (the flats) along bank of Mississippi River. Completed 1841. Opened for business, 5 Jan. 1842. Owned by JS, but managed mostly by others, after 1842. First floor housed JS’s general store and counting room, where tithing...

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for the purpose of hearing the views of General Joseph Smith given concerning the affairs of Government— his views were written & were read by
Wm W Phelps

17 Feb. 1792–7 Mar. 1872. Writer, teacher, printer, newspaper editor, publisher, postmaster, lawyer. Born at Hanover, Morris Co., New Jersey. Son of Enon Phelps and Mehitabel Goldsmith. Moved to Homer, Cortland Co., New York, 1800. Married Sally Waterman,...

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& were in the highest degree interesting. Gen Smith gave his reasons for permitting his name to go forth as a candidate for the Presidency of the
United States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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, which were as follows I would not have suffered my name to have been used by my friends on anywise as president of the
united States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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or candidate for that office If I & my friends could have had the privilege of enjoying our religious & civel rights as American Citizen even those rights which the Constitution guarantee unto all her Citizens alike but this we as a people have been denied from the beginning Persecution has rolled upon our heads from time to time from portions of the
United States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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like peels of thunder because of our religion & no portion of the government as yet has steped forward for our relief
1

The Saints were driven out of Missouri in winter 1838–1839. JS and other church leaders made numerous appeals to the governments of Missouri, Illinois, and the United States for reparations for lost property as well as the protection of the Saints’ civil rights. (See, for example, Benjamin Kendrick et al., De Witt, MO, to Lilburn W. Boggs, Petition, 22 Sept. 1838, copy, Mormon War Papers, Missouri State Archives, Jefferson City; Memorial to the United States Senate and House of Representatives, ca. 30 Oct. 1839–27 Jan. 1840; and JS et al., Memorial to U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, 28 Nov. 1843, Record Group 46, Records of the U.S. Senate, National Archives, Washington DC.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Mormon War Papers, 1838–1841. MSA.

& under view of these things I feel it to be my right & privilege to obtain what influence & power I can lawfully in the
United States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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for the protection of injured innocence & If I loose my life in a good Cause I am willing to be sacrificed on the alter of virtue rightousness & truth, in maintaining the laws & constitution [p. [192]]
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Footnotes

  1. [1]

    The Saints were driven out of Missouri in winter 1838–1839. JS and other church leaders made numerous appeals to the governments of Missouri, Illinois, and the United States for reparations for lost property as well as the protection of the Saints’ civil rights. (See, for example, Benjamin Kendrick et al., De Witt, MO, to Lilburn W. Boggs, Petition, 22 Sept. 1838, copy, Mormon War Papers, Missouri State Archives, Jefferson City; Memorial to the United States Senate and House of Representatives, ca. 30 Oct. 1839–27 Jan. 1840; and JS et al., Memorial to U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, 28 Nov. 1843, Record Group 46, Records of the U.S. Senate, National Archives, Washington DC.)

    Mormon War Papers, 1838–1841. MSA.

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