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Minutes, 20 January 1843

Source Note

Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

Members of a governing body in the church, with special administrative and proselytizing responsibilities. A June 1829 revelation commanded Oliver Cowdery and David Whitmer to call twelve disciples, similar to the twelve apostles in the New Testament and ...

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, Minutes,
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Hancock Co., IL, 20 Jan. 1843; handwriting of
Willard Richards

24 June 1804–11 Mar. 1854. Teacher, lecturer, doctor, clerk, printer, editor, postmaster. Born at Hopkinton, Middlesex Co., Massachusetts. Son of Joseph Richards and Rhoda Howe. Moved to Richmond, Berkshire Co., Massachusetts, 1813; to Chatham, Columbia Co...

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; three pages; Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Minutes, 1840–1844, CHL. Includes docket.
Bifolium measuring 9⅛ × 7¼ inches (23 × 18 cm) when folded. After inscription, the document was folded in half twice and docketed for filing.
The document was docketed by
Willard Richards

24 June 1804–11 Mar. 1854. Teacher, lecturer, doctor, clerk, printer, editor, postmaster. Born at Hopkinton, Middlesex Co., Massachusetts. Son of Joseph Richards and Rhoda Howe. Moved to Richmond, Berkshire Co., Massachusetts, 1813; to Chatham, Columbia Co...

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, who served as the regular clerk of the
Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

Members of a governing body in the church, with special administrative and proselytizing responsibilities. A June 1829 revelation commanded Oliver Cowdery and David Whitmer to call twelve disciples, similar to the twelve apostles in the New Testament and ...

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since at least 1841, keeping minutes of meetings and writing correspondence on behalf of the quorum.
1

See, for example, Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Minutes, 31 Aug. 1841; and Council of Fifty, “Record,” 10 Mar. 1844.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. Minutes, 1840–1844. CHL.

He also served as JS’s scribe from December 1841 until JS’s death in June 1844 and served as church historian from December 1842 until his own death in March 1854.
2

JS, Journal, 13 Dec. 1841 and 21 Dec. 1842; Orson Spencer, “Death of Our Beloved Brother Willard Richards,” Deseret News (Salt Lake City), 16 Mar. 1854, [2].


Comprehensive Works Cited

Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

Richards presumably retained the minutes after inscribing them, and they were likely among the “Minutes of the Twelve 1840 to 1844” listed on an 1846 inventory of the Church Historian’s Office (later Church Historical Department).
3

“Schedule of Church Records. Nauvoo 1846,” [1], Historian’s Office, Catalogs and Inventories, 1846–1904, CHL.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Historian’s Office. Catalogs and Inventories, 1846–1904. CHL. CR 100 130.

By the mid-1970s, the minutes were included as part of the Brigham Young Office Files at the Church Historical Department (now CHL).
4

Brigham Young Office Files, 1832–1878, microfilm, Aug. 1975, CHL.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Brigham Young Office Files, 1832–1878. CHL. CR 1234 1.

In 1986 the minutes of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles for the 1840s in the Young files were transferred to the Office of the First Presidency. The minutes were returned to the CHL in 2008 but cataloged separately from the Young files in 2016.
5

See the full bibliographic entry for Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Minutes, 1840–1844, in the CHL catalog.


The document’s early docket, inclusion in the 1846 inventory, and subsequent provenance indicate continuous institutional custody.

Footnotes

  1. [1]

    See, for example, Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Minutes, 31 Aug. 1841; and Council of Fifty, “Record,” 10 Mar. 1844.

    Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. Minutes, 1840–1844. CHL.

  2. [2]

    JS, Journal, 13 Dec. 1841 and 21 Dec. 1842; Orson Spencer, “Death of Our Beloved Brother Willard Richards,” Deseret News (Salt Lake City), 16 Mar. 1854, [2].

    Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

  3. [3]

    “Schedule of Church Records. Nauvoo 1846,” [1], Historian’s Office, Catalogs and Inventories, 1846–1904, CHL.

    Historian’s Office. Catalogs and Inventories, 1846–1904. CHL. CR 100 130.

  4. [4]

    Brigham Young Office Files, 1832–1878, microfilm, Aug. 1975, CHL.

    Brigham Young Office Files, 1832–1878. CHL. CR 1234 1.

  5. [5]

    See the full bibliographic entry for Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Minutes, 1840–1844, in the CHL catalog.

Historical Introduction

On 20 January 1843, JS participated in a meeting of the
Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

Members of a governing body in the church, with special administrative and proselytizing responsibilities. A June 1829 revelation commanded Oliver Cowdery and David Whitmer to call twelve disciples, similar to the twelve apostles in the New Testament and ...

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in
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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, Illinois, to discuss
Orson Pratt

19 Sept. 1811–3 Oct. 1881. Farmer, writer, teacher, merchant, surveyor, editor, publisher. Born at Hartford, Washington Co., New York. Son of Jared Pratt and Charity Dickinson. Moved to New Lebanon, Columbia Co., New York, 1814; to Canaan, Columbia Co., fall...

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’s standing in that
quorum

An organized group of individuals holding the same office in the Melchizedek priesthood or the Aaronic priesthood. According to the 1835 “Instruction on Priesthood,” the presidency of the church constituted a quorum. The Twelve Apostles also formed a quorum...

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. Earlier in 1842,
John C. Bennett

3 Aug. 1804–5 Aug. 1867. Physician, minister, poultry breeder. Born at Fairhaven, Bristol Co., Massachusetts. Son of John Bennett and Abigail Cook. Moved to Marietta, Washington Co., Ohio, 1808; to Massachusetts, 1812; and back to Marietta, 1822. Married ...

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and
Sarah Marinda Bates Pratt

5 Feb. 1817–25 Dec. 1888. Seamstress. Born in Henderson, Jefferson Co., New York. Daughter of Cyrus Bates and Lydia Harrington. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Orson Pratt, 18 June 1835, near Sackets Harbor, Jefferson Co. Married...

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, Orson’s wife, had accused JS of proposing marriage to Sarah. In turn, JS and others had accused Bennett and Sarah Pratt of having an extramarital affair. In summer 1842, Orson Pratt was deeply conflicted over whether to believe his wife or JS. In a letter he wrote in July 1842, Pratt lamented that “if the testimonies of my wife & others are true then I have been deceived for 12 years past” but that if “the other testimonies are true then my family are ruined forever.”
1

Historical Introduction to Account of Meeting, 15 July 1842; Orson Pratt, Letter, [Nauvoo, IL], 14 July 1842, CHL.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Pratt, Orson. Letter, [Nauvoo, IL], 14 July 1842. CHL. MS 16976.

On 22 July 1842, Pratt opposed a public resolution in Nauvoo proclaiming JS to be “a good, moral, virtuous, peaceable and patriotic man,” but he never came forward in open opposition to the
church

The Book of Mormon related that when Christ set up his church in the Americas, “they which were baptized in the name of Jesus, were called the church of Christ.” The first name used to denote the church JS organized on 6 April 1830 was “the Church of Christ...

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, as Bennett had urged him to do.
2

Minutes, 22 July 1842.


In mid-August, the members of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles living in Nauvoo spent several days trying to convince Pratt to “recall his sayings against Joseph & The Twelve,” but he refused. Finally, on 20 August, Pratt was “cut off from the Church” and
Amasa Lyman

30 Mar. 1813–4 Feb. 1877. Boatman, gunsmith, farmer. Born at Lyman, Grafton Co., New Hampshire. Son of Roswell Lyman and Martha Mason. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Lyman E. Johnson, 27 Apr. 1832. Moved to Hiram, Portage Co....

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was
ordained

The conferral of power and authority; to appoint, decree, or set apart. Church members, primarily adults, were ordained to ecclesiastical offices and other responsibilities by the laying on of hands by those with the proper authority. Ordinations to priesthood...

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to replace him in the quorum—actions that JS apparently sanctioned or directed.
3

Woodruff, Journal, 10 Aug.–19 Sept. 1842; Historian’s Office, Brigham Young History Drafts, 63–64. There is no record of any action being taken against Sarah Pratt during this time.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

Historian’s Office. Brigham Young History Drafts, 1856–1858. CHL. CR 100 475, box 1, fd. 5.

By January 1843, the tension between Pratt and JS seems to have ebbed. This was especially true after 16 January, when Pratt delivered to JS a private letter that Bennett wrote to Pratt and
Sidney Rigdon

19 Feb. 1793–14 July 1876. Tanner, farmer, minister. Born at St. Clair, Allegheny Co., Pennsylvania. Son of William Rigdon and Nancy Gallaher. Joined United Baptists, ca. 1818. Preached at Warren, Trumbull Co., Ohio, and vicinity, 1819–1821. Married Phebe...

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informing them of his plans to instigate a new effort to extradite JS to
Missouri

Area acquired by U.S. in Louisiana Purchase, 1803, and established as territory, 1812. Missouri Compromise, 1820, admitted Missouri as slave state, 1821. Population in 1830 about 140,000; in 1836 about 240,000; and in 1840 about 380,000. Latter-day Saint ...

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.
4

Letter to Justin Butterfield, 16 Jan. 1843; John C. Bennett, Springfield, IL, to Sidney Rigdon and Orson Pratt, Nauvoo, IL, 10 Jan. [1843], Sidney Rigdon, Collection, CHL.


Four days later at
Brigham Young

1 June 1801–29 Aug. 1877. Carpenter, painter, glazier, colonizer. Born at Whitingham, Windham Co., Vermont. Son of John Young and Abigail (Nabby) Howe. Brought up in Methodist household; later joined Methodist church. Moved to Sherburne, Chenango Co., New...

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’s house, JS and
Hyrum Smith

9 Feb. 1800–27 June 1844. Farmer, cooper. Born at Tunbridge, Orange Co., Vermont. Son of Joseph Smith Sr. and Lucy Mack. Moved to Randolph, Orange Co., 1802; back to Tunbridge, before May 1803; to Royalton, Windsor Co., Vermont, 1804; to Sharon, Windsor Co...

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met with
Orson Pratt

19 Sept. 1811–3 Oct. 1881. Farmer, writer, teacher, merchant, surveyor, editor, publisher. Born at Hartford, Washington Co., New York. Son of Jared Pratt and Charity Dickinson. Moved to New Lebanon, Columbia Co., New York, 1814; to Canaan, Columbia Co., fall...

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and the seven apostles then in
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas....

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to consider restoring Pratt’s standing in the church and in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.
Wilford Woodruff

1 Mar. 1807–2 Sept. 1898. Farmer, miller. Born at Farmington, Hartford Co., Connecticut. Son of Aphek Woodruff and Beulah Thompson. Moved to Richland, Oswego Co., New York, 1832. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Zera Pulsipher,...

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noted that Pratt had “repented in dust & ashes as it were for opposing Joseph & the Twelve” and that he “desired much to return to the quorum.”
5

Woodruff, Journal, 19 [20] Jan. 1843.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

At the meeting, JS announced that the actions cutting off and replacing Pratt were invalid because only three of the apostles had been present, and Pratt retained his standing. The meeting’s participants discussed additional business that was not recorded in the minutes. JS proposed that he, Hyrum Smith, all twelve apostles, and several other church members undertake a mission in 1843, preaching throughout the
United States

North American constitutional republic. Constitution ratified, 17 Sept. 1787. Population in 1805 about 6,000,000; in 1830 about 13,000,000; and in 1844 about 20,000,000. Louisiana Purchase, 1803, doubled size of U.S. Consisted of seventeen states at time ...

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before traveling to
England

Island nation consisting of southern portion of Great Britain and surrounding smaller islands. Bounded on north by Scotland and on west by Wales. Became province of Roman Empire, first century. Ruled by Romans, through 447. Ruled by Picts, Scots, and Saxons...

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, mainland Europe, and eventually
Jerusalem

Capital city of ancient Judea. Holy city of Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Population in 1835 about 11,000; in 1840 about 13,000; and in 1850 about 15,000. Described in 1836 as “greatly reduced from its ancient size and importance.” Control of city changed...

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.
6

JS, Journal, 20 Jan. 1843; Clayton, Journal, 20 Jan. 1843.


Comprehensive Works Cited

Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

At three o’clock in the afternoon, the men retired to the riverbank near JS’s home, broke through the ice, and rebaptized Orson and
Sarah Pratt

5 Feb. 1817–25 Dec. 1888. Seamstress. Born in Henderson, Jefferson Co., New York. Daughter of Cyrus Bates and Lydia Harrington. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Orson Pratt, 18 June 1835, near Sackets Harbor, Jefferson Co. Married...

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as well as
Lydia Granger

5 Apr. 1790–1861. Born in Granby, Hartford Co., Connecticut. Daughter of Cornish Dibble and Lydia. Moved to Phelps, Ontario Co., New York, before 1813. Married Oliver Granger, 8 Sept. 1813, in Phelps. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints...

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.
7

It unclear whether Sarah Pratt shared her husband’s renewed enthusiasm for JS and the church. Though she accompanied her husband on several missions following their rebaptism and joined him in Utah Territory in 1851, in May 1874 she testified before the House Committee on Elections in Washington DC that she had “not been a believer in the Mormon doctrines for thirty years.” (“The Polygamous Delegate,” National Republican [Washington DC], 22 Jan. 1875, [1], [4].)


Comprehensive Works Cited

National Republican. Washington DC. 1872–1888.

Granger’s connection to the Pratts in this matter is unknown.
Apostle
Willard Richards

24 June 1804–11 Mar. 1854. Teacher, lecturer, doctor, clerk, printer, editor, postmaster. Born at Hopkinton, Middlesex Co., Massachusetts. Son of Joseph Richards and Rhoda Howe. Moved to Richmond, Berkshire Co., Massachusetts, 1813; to Chatham, Columbia Co...

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, a frequent scribe for JS and the
Twelve

Members of a governing body in the church, with special administrative and proselytizing responsibilities. A June 1829 revelation commanded Oliver Cowdery and David Whitmer to call twelve disciples, similar to the twelve apostles in the New Testament and ...

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, kept the minutes of this meeting. He recorded two separate accounts of the meeting, one in JS’s journal, which he was keeping, and the other on loose leaves of paper, which is the version featured here.
8

For the journal account, see JS, Journal, 20 Jan. 1843.


Richards emphasized different elements of the meeting in these two accounts. In the minutes, he included only the discussion of
Orson Pratt

19 Sept. 1811–3 Oct. 1881. Farmer, writer, teacher, merchant, surveyor, editor, publisher. Born at Hartford, Washington Co., New York. Son of Jared Pratt and Charity Dickinson. Moved to New Lebanon, Columbia Co., New York, 1814; to Canaan, Columbia Co., fall...

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’s status in the quorum, while in JS’s journal he recorded a lengthy dream JS related to the council, two prophecies he made, and his proposal for his and the Twelve’s combined missionary efforts the next year. In the journal, Richards wrote nothing about Pratt or his situation. It is unclear why this discrepancy exists, though it suggests that Richards may have taken contemporaneous notes—no longer extant—during the meeting and then copied certain parts of the notes into the minutes and other parts into JS’s journal.
9

Some of Richards’s entries in JS’s journal and their corresponding minutes seem to share a common original text. (See, for example, Minutes, 10 Feb. 1843; and JS, Journal, 10 Feb. 1843.)


After completing the official minutes of the meeting, Richards signed the document for
Brigham Young

1 June 1801–29 Aug. 1877. Carpenter, painter, glazier, colonizer. Born at Whitingham, Windham Co., Vermont. Son of John Young and Abigail (Nabby) Howe. Brought up in Methodist household; later joined Methodist church. Moved to Sherburne, Chenango Co., New...

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as president of the Quorum of the Twelve and for himself as scribe.

Footnotes

  1. [1]

    Historical Introduction to Account of Meeting, 15 July 1842; Orson Pratt, Letter, [Nauvoo, IL], 14 July 1842, CHL.

    Pratt, Orson. Letter, [Nauvoo, IL], 14 July 1842. CHL. MS 16976.

  2. [2]

    Minutes, 22 July 1842.

  3. [3]

    Woodruff, Journal, 10 Aug.–19 Sept. 1842; Historian’s Office, Brigham Young History Drafts, 63–64. There is no record of any action being taken against Sarah Pratt during this time.

    Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

    Historian’s Office. Brigham Young History Drafts, 1856–1858. CHL. CR 100 475, box 1, fd. 5.

  4. [4]

    Letter to Justin Butterfield, 16 Jan. 1843; John C. Bennett, Springfield, IL, to Sidney Rigdon and Orson Pratt, Nauvoo, IL, 10 Jan. [1843], Sidney Rigdon, Collection, CHL.

  5. [5]

    Woodruff, Journal, 19 [20] Jan. 1843.

    Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

  6. [6]

    JS, Journal, 20 Jan. 1843; Clayton, Journal, 20 Jan. 1843.

    Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

  7. [7]

    It unclear whether Sarah Pratt shared her husband’s renewed enthusiasm for JS and the church. Though she accompanied her husband on several missions following their rebaptism and joined him in Utah Territory in 1851, in May 1874 she testified before the House Committee on Elections in Washington DC that she had “not been a believer in the Mormon doctrines for thirty years.” (“The Polygamous Delegate,” National Republican [Washington DC], 22 Jan. 1875, [1], [4].)

    National Republican. Washington DC. 1872–1888.

  8. [8]

    For the journal account, see JS, Journal, 20 Jan. 1843.

  9. [9]

    Some of Richards’s entries in JS’s journal and their corresponding minutes seem to share a common original text. (See, for example, Minutes, 10 Feb. 1843; and JS, Journal, 10 Feb. 1843.)

Asterisk (*) denotes a "featured" version, which includes an introduction and annotation. *Minutes, 20 January 1843 Journal, December 1842–June 1844; Book 1, 21 December 1842–10 March 1843 History Draft [1 January–3 March 1843] History, 1838–1856, volume D-1 [1 August 1842–1 July 1843] “History of Joseph Smith”

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Young

1 June 1801–29 Aug. 1877. Carpenter, painter, glazier, colonizer. Born at Whitingham, Windham Co., Vermont. Son of John Young and Abigail (Nabby) Howe. Brought up in Methodist household; later joined Methodist church. Moved to Sherburne, Chenango Co., New...

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. said there was but 3 pres[en]t. when
Amasa [Lyman]

30 Mar. 1813–4 Feb. 1877. Boatman, gunsmith, farmer. Born at Lyman, Grafton Co., New Hampshire. Son of Roswell Lyman and Martha Mason. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Lyman E. Johnson, 27 Apr. 1832. Moved to Hiram, Portage Co....

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was
ordaind

The conferral of power and authority; to appoint, decree, or set apart. Church members, primarily adults, were ordained to ecclesiastical offices and other responsibilities by the laying on of hands by those with the proper authority. Ordinations to priesthood...

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—
3

The draft of Young’s manuscript history states that the excommunication of Pratt and ordination of Lyman on 20 August 1842 occurred “according to the Prophet’s direction” after Young and others had “reported to the Prophet that we [the apostles] had labored with Bro: Orson diligently in a spirit of meekness forbearance & long suffering” for several days. The three apostles present when Lyman was ordained an apostle were Young, Kimball, and George A. Smith. (Historian’s Office, Brigham Young History Drafts, 63–64; see also “History of Brigham Young,” Deseret News [Salt Lake City], 17 Mar. 1858, 9.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Historian’s Office. Brigham Young History Drafts, 1856–1858. CHL. CR 100 475, box 1, fd. 5.

Deseret News. Salt Lake City. 1850–.

Joseph said that w[a]s legal when no more could be had.—
Young

1 June 1801–29 Aug. 1877. Carpenter, painter, glazier, colonizer. Born at Whitingham, Windham Co., Vermont. Son of John Young and Abigail (Nabby) Howe. Brought up in Methodist household; later joined Methodist church. Moved to Sherburne, Chenango Co., New...

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—— said all he had agist [against]
Orson

19 Sept. 1811–3 Oct. 1881. Farmer, writer, teacher, merchant, surveyor, editor, publisher. Born at Hartford, Washington Co., New York. Son of Jared Pratt and Charity Dickinson. Moved to New Lebanon, Columbia Co., New York, 1814; to Canaan, Columbia Co., fall...

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was when he came home he loved his
wife

28 June 1815–24 Mar. 1886. Born in Pomfret, Windsor Co., Vermont. Daughter of John Johnson and Alice (Elsa) Jacobs. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Apr. 1832, in Hiram, Portage Co., Ohio. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, 1833...

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better than David.
4

Young earlier blamed Sarah Marinda Bates Pratt for Orson Pratt’s struggles. In a July 1842 letter to Parley P. Pratt, Young wrote that Orson was “in trubble in consequence of his wife, hir feelings are so rought up that he dos not know whether his wife is wrong, or whether Josephs testmony and others are wrong. . . . We will not let Br Orson goe away from us he is to good a man to have a woman destroy him.” His reference to David here presumably referred to the friendship between the biblical David and Jonathan. According to 2 Samuel, when David learned that Jonathan had been killed, he lamented, “Thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.” Using the same analogy of David and Jonathan, JS had recently referred to himself as “David” in a letter to William Clayton. (Brigham Young, Nauvoo, IL, to Parley P. Pratt, Liverpool, England, 17 July 1842, CHL; 2 Samuel 1:26; Letter to William Clayton, 7 Oct. 1842.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Young, Brigham. Letter, Nauvoo, IL, to Parley P. Pratt, Liverpool, England, 17 July 1842. CHL. MS 14291.

Joseph—— She lied about me— I never made the offer whi[c]h she said I did.—
5

There are no contemporaneous accounts from Sarah Marinda Bates Pratt or Orson Pratt regarding an alleged marriage proposal from JS. In his published letters against the church, John C. Bennett claimed that JS had attempted on four separate occasions to convince Sarah to become his plural wife while Orson was serving a mission in the British Isles. As he did in this 20 January meeting, however, JS denied these claims. In 1886 Sarah made similar though more extreme allegations in an interview with Wilhelm Ritter von Wymetal, which he included in a book attacking the church. (“Further Mormon Developments!! 2d Letter from Gen. Bennett,” Sangamo Journal [Springfield, IL], 15 July 1842, [2]; Von Wymetal, Joseph Smith the Prophet, 1:61–63.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Sangamo Journal. Springfield, IL. 1831–1847.

Von Wymetal, Wilhelm [W. Wyl, pseud.]. Joseph Smith the Prophet: His Family and His Friends; A Study Based on Facts and Documents. Salt Lake City: Tribune Printing and Publishing, 1886.

I will not give not advise you to break up your family— unless it were asked of me, then I would coucil you to get a bill from your wife & mary a virtuous woman—
6

In her hostile account of her time as a Latter-day Saint, Mary Ettie Coray Smith, a neighbor of the Pratts, stated that the rumors of JS’s interest in Sarah Marinda Bates Pratt as well as of her affair with John C. Bennett were true and claimed to have witnessed JS catching the two in adultery. (Green, Fifteen Years among the Mormons, 31; see also Historical Introduction to Account of Meeting, 15 July 1842; and Affidavits and Certificates [Nauvoo, IL: 1842], copy at CHL.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Green, Nelson Winch. Fifteen Years among the Mormons: Being the Narrative of Mrs. Mary Ettie V. Smith, Late of the Great Salt Lake City. . . . New York: H. Dayton, 1859.

Affidavits and Certificates, Disproving the Statements and Affidavits Contained in John C. Bennett’s Letters. Nauvoo Aug. 31, 1842. [Nauvoo, IL: 1842]. Copy at CHL.

& raise a new family— but if you do not do it shall never throw it in your teeth.
Joseph [blank]
Orson

19 Sept. 1811–3 Oct. 1881. Farmer, writer, teacher, merchant, surveyor, editor, publisher. Born at Hartford, Washington Co., New York. Son of Jared Pratt and Charity Dickinson. Moved to New Lebanon, Columbia Co., New York, 1814; to Canaan, Columbia Co., fall...

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I prophesy in the name of the Lord Jesus— ch[r]ist that it will not be 6 month, before you learn things whi[c]h will make you glad you have not left us.—
Bro Prest. Joseph said to
Orson Hyde

8 Jan. 1805–28 Nov. 1878. Laborer, clerk, storekeeper, teacher, editor, businessman, lawyer, judge. Born at Oxford, New Haven Co., Connecticut. Son of Nathan Hyde and Sally Thorpe. Moved to Derby, New Haven Co., 1812. Moved to Kirtland, Geauga Co., Ohio, ...

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, I can make a swap with
Amasa Lyman

30 Mar. 1813–4 Feb. 1877. Boatman, gunsmith, farmer. Born at Lyman, Grafton Co., New Hampshire. Son of Roswell Lyman and Martha Mason. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Lyman E. Johnson, 27 Apr. 1832. Moved to Hiram, Portage Co....

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.— & let him have the office we were going to give you.—
7

Although it is unclear to which office JS was referring here, Wilford Woodruff recorded in his journal that Lyman “was taken in to the first Presidency” as a result of this meeting. On 4 February 1843, JS met with Lyman to inform him of the decisions of the 20 January meeting and stated that “he had concluded to make Amasa councillr to the fir[s]t Presidency.” Although there is no record of Lyman being ordained or sustained to a position in the First Presidency, evidence suggests he was subsequently considered a member of the presidency. In April 1843, he addressed a special conference of the church—with his remarks subsequently published in full by the Times and Seasons—and at a July 1843 conference, Richards listed Lyman’s name alongside those of JS’s other counselors, Sidney Rigdon and William Law. On 1 October 1843, Lyman may have been anointed a counselor to JS in the presidency of the quorum that administered and participated in temple ordinances. After JS’s death, Lyman was recognized as having been a counselor in the First Presidency by those present at an 8 August 1844 meeting to choose a leader for the church. Lyman was sustained at that meeting as a counselor to the Twelve and at the October 1844 conference as “one of the Twelve, just in the same relationship as he [was] sustained to the first presidency.” (Woodruff, Journal, 19 [20] Jan. 1843; JS, Journal, 4 Feb. and 9 Apr. 1843; “A Discourse,” Times and Seasons, 1 June 1843, 4:218–220; Historian’s Office, General Church Minutes, 3 July 1843; “Special Meeting,” Times and Seasons, 2 Sept. 1844, 5:637–638; Clayton, Journal, 8 Aug. 1844; Woodruff, Journal, 8 Aug. 1844; “October Conference Minutes,” Times and Seasons, 1 Nov. 1844, 5:692.)


Comprehensive Works Cited

Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

Historian’s Office. General Church Minutes, 1839–1877. CHL

Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

Orson

19 Sept. 1811–3 Oct. 1881. Farmer, writer, teacher, merchant, surveyor, editor, publisher. Born at Hartford, Washington Co., New York. Son of Jared Pratt and Charity Dickinson. Moved to New Lebanon, Columbia Co., New York, 1814; to Canaan, Columbia Co., fall...

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This is likely a referring to Orson Pratt rather than to Orson Hyde.


the latter part of your life shall be more Joyful then the former—
3 o clock adjourned to Pres[i]dent Joseph’s
4— oclock
orson Pratt

19 Sept. 1811–3 Oct. 1881. Farmer, writer, teacher, merchant, surveyor, editor, publisher. Born at Hartford, Washington Co., New York. Son of Jared Pratt and Charity Dickinson. Moved to New Lebanon, Columbia Co., New York, 1814; to Canaan, Columbia Co., fall...

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Sarah Marinda [Bates] Pratt

5 Feb. 1817–25 Dec. 1888. Seamstress. Born in Henderson, Jefferson Co., New York. Daughter of Cyrus Bates and Lydia Harrington. Baptized into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by Orson Pratt, 18 June 1835, near Sackets Harbor, Jefferson Co. Married...

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Minutes, 20 January 1843
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    The draft of Young’s manuscript history states that the excommunication of Pratt and ordination of Lyman on 20 August 1842 occurred “according to the Prophet’s direction” after Young and others had “reported to the Prophet that we [the apostles] had labored with Bro: Orson diligently in a spirit of meekness forbearance & long suffering” for several days. The three apostles present when Lyman was ordained an apostle were Young, Kimball, and George A. Smith. (Historian’s Office, Brigham Young History Drafts, 63–64; see also “History of Brigham Young,” Deseret News [Salt Lake City], 17 Mar. 1858, 9.)

    Historian’s Office. Brigham Young History Drafts, 1856–1858. CHL. CR 100 475, box 1, fd. 5.

    Deseret News. Salt Lake City. 1850–.

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    Young earlier blamed Sarah Marinda Bates Pratt for Orson Pratt’s struggles. In a July 1842 letter to Parley P. Pratt, Young wrote that Orson was “in trubble in consequence of his wife, hir feelings are so rought up that he dos not know whether his wife is wrong, or whether Josephs testmony and others are wrong. . . . We will not let Br Orson goe away from us he is to good a man to have a woman destroy him.” His reference to David here presumably referred to the friendship between the biblical David and Jonathan. According to 2 Samuel, when David learned that Jonathan had been killed, he lamented, “Thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.” Using the same analogy of David and Jonathan, JS had recently referred to himself as “David” in a letter to William Clayton. (Brigham Young, Nauvoo, IL, to Parley P. Pratt, Liverpool, England, 17 July 1842, CHL; 2 Samuel 1:26; Letter to William Clayton, 7 Oct. 1842.)

    Young, Brigham. Letter, Nauvoo, IL, to Parley P. Pratt, Liverpool, England, 17 July 1842. CHL. MS 14291.

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    There are no contemporaneous accounts from Sarah Marinda Bates Pratt or Orson Pratt regarding an alleged marriage proposal from JS. In his published letters against the church, John C. Bennett claimed that JS had attempted on four separate occasions to convince Sarah to become his plural wife while Orson was serving a mission in the British Isles. As he did in this 20 January meeting, however, JS denied these claims. In 1886 Sarah made similar though more extreme allegations in an interview with Wilhelm Ritter von Wymetal, which he included in a book attacking the church. (“Further Mormon Developments!! 2d Letter from Gen. Bennett,” Sangamo Journal [Springfield, IL], 15 July 1842, [2]; Von Wymetal, Joseph Smith the Prophet, 1:61–63.)

    Sangamo Journal. Springfield, IL. 1831–1847.

    Von Wymetal, Wilhelm [W. Wyl, pseud.]. Joseph Smith the Prophet: His Family and His Friends; A Study Based on Facts and Documents. Salt Lake City: Tribune Printing and Publishing, 1886.

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    In her hostile account of her time as a Latter-day Saint, Mary Ettie Coray Smith, a neighbor of the Pratts, stated that the rumors of JS’s interest in Sarah Marinda Bates Pratt as well as of her affair with John C. Bennett were true and claimed to have witnessed JS catching the two in adultery. (Green, Fifteen Years among the Mormons, 31; see also Historical Introduction to Account of Meeting, 15 July 1842; and Affidavits and Certificates [Nauvoo, IL: 1842], copy at CHL.)

    Green, Nelson Winch. Fifteen Years among the Mormons: Being the Narrative of Mrs. Mary Ettie V. Smith, Late of the Great Salt Lake City. . . . New York: H. Dayton, 1859.

    Affidavits and Certificates, Disproving the Statements and Affidavits Contained in John C. Bennett’s Letters. Nauvoo Aug. 31, 1842. [Nauvoo, IL: 1842]. Copy at CHL.

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    Although it is unclear to which office JS was referring here, Wilford Woodruff recorded in his journal that Lyman “was taken in to the first Presidency” as a result of this meeting. On 4 February 1843, JS met with Lyman to inform him of the decisions of the 20 January meeting and stated that “he had concluded to make Amasa councillr to the fir[s]t Presidency.” Although there is no record of Lyman being ordained or sustained to a position in the First Presidency, evidence suggests he was subsequently considered a member of the presidency. In April 1843, he addressed a special conference of the church—with his remarks subsequently published in full by the Times and Seasons—and at a July 1843 conference, Richards listed Lyman’s name alongside those of JS’s other counselors, Sidney Rigdon and William Law. On 1 October 1843, Lyman may have been anointed a counselor to JS in the presidency of the quorum that administered and participated in temple ordinances. After JS’s death, Lyman was recognized as having been a counselor in the First Presidency by those present at an 8 August 1844 meeting to choose a leader for the church. Lyman was sustained at that meeting as a counselor to the Twelve and at the October 1844 conference as “one of the Twelve, just in the same relationship as he [was] sustained to the first presidency.” (Woodruff, Journal, 19 [20] Jan. 1843; JS, Journal, 4 Feb. and 9 Apr. 1843; “A Discourse,” Times and Seasons, 1 June 1843, 4:218–220; Historian’s Office, General Church Minutes, 3 July 1843; “Special Meeting,” Times and Seasons, 2 Sept. 1844, 5:637–638; Clayton, Journal, 8 Aug. 1844; Woodruff, Journal, 8 Aug. 1844; “October Conference Minutes,” Times and Seasons, 1 Nov. 1844, 5:692.)

    Woodruff, Wilford. Journals, 1833–1898. Wilford Woodruff, Journals and Papers, 1828–1898. CHL. MS 1352.

    Times and Seasons. Commerce/Nauvoo, IL. Nov. 1839–Feb. 1846.

    Historian’s Office. General Church Minutes, 1839–1877. CHL

    Clayton, William. Journals, 1842–1845. CHL.

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    This is likely a referring to Orson Pratt rather than to Orson Hyde.

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