History, 1838–1856, volume B-1 [1 September 1834–2 November 1838]

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  • Historical Introduction
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respecting a certain letter which they received from the presidency of <​January 16 Council of the Twelve Continued​> the high Council in , while attending a conference in the State of ,— also spoke of being placed in our council on friday last, below the councils of and Zion, having been previously placed next the presidency in our assemblies, also observed that they were hurt on account of some remarks made by presedent , on the trial of , (who had been previously tried before the council of the Twelve, while on their mission in the east,) who had by their request, thrown his case before the high council in for investigation; and the Twelve considered that their proceedings, with him, were in some degree discountenanced. then gave way to his brethren and they arose and spoke in turn until they had all spoken, acquiescing in the observations of and made some additions to his remarks, which were as follows, that the letter in question which they received from the presidency, in which two of their members were suspended, and the rest severely chastened, and that too upon testimony which was unwarrantable; and particular stress was laid upon [HC 2:372] a certain letter which the presidency had received from Doct. , of , New York, in which he preferred charges against them, which were false, and upon which we, (the presidency) had acted in chastening them, and therefore the Twelve had concluded that the presidency had lost confidence in them, and that whereas the church in this place, had carressed them, at the time of their appointment to the Apostleship, they now treated them coolly, and appeared to have lost confidence in them also. They spoke of their having been in the work from the beginning almost, and had borne the burden in the heat of the day, and passed through many trials, and that the presidency ought not to suspect their fidility, nor loose confidence in them, neither have chastened them upon such testimony as was lying before them,— also urged the necessity of an explanation upon the letter which they received from the presidency, and the propriety of their having information as it respects their duties, authority, &c, that they might come to an understanding in all things, that they might act in perfect unison and harmony before the Lord, and be prepared for the endowment,— also that they had preferred a charge against , for his unchristian Conduct. which the presidency had disregarded;— Also that President , on a certain occasion, had made use of language to one of the Twelve that was unchristian, and unbecoming any man, and that they would not submit to such treatment. The remarks of the Twelve were made in a very forcible and explicit manner yet cool and deliberate
<​Joseph’s Reply.​> I observed that we had heard them patiently, and in turn should expect to be heard patiently also; and first I remarked that it [p. 690]
respecting a certain letter which they received from the presidency of January 16 Council of the Twelve Continued the high Council in , while attending a conference in the State of ,— also spoke of being placed in our council on friday last, below the councils of and Zion, having been previously placed next the presidency in our assemblies, also observed that they were hurt on account of some remarks made by presedent , on the trial of , (who had been previously tried before the council of the Twelve, while on their mission in the east,) who had by their request, thrown his case before the high council in for investigation; and the Twelve considered that their proceedings, with him, were in some degree discountenanced. then gave way to his brethren and they arose and spoke in turn until they had all spoken, acquiescing in the observations of and made some additions to his remarks, which were as follows, that the letter in question which they received from the presidency, in which two of their members were suspended, and the rest severely chastened, and that too upon testimony which was unwarrantable; and particular stress was laid upon [HC 2:372] a certain letter which the presidency had received from Doct. , of , New York, in which he preferred charges against them, which were false, and upon which we, (the presidency) had acted in chastening them, and therefore the Twelve had concluded that the presidency had lost confidence in them, and that whereas the church in this place, had carressed them, at the time of their appointment to the Apostleship, they now treated them coolly, and appeared to have lost confidence in them also. They spoke of their having been in the work from the beginning almost, and had borne the burden in the heat of the day, and passed through many trials, and that the presidency ought not to suspect their fidility, nor loose confidence in them, neither have chastened them upon such testimony as was lying before them,— also urged the necessity of an explanation upon the letter which they received from the presidency, and the propriety of their having information as it respects their duties, authority, &c, that they might come to an understanding in all things, that they might act in perfect unison and harmony before the Lord, and be prepared for the endowment,— also that they had preferred a charge against , for his unchristian Conduct. which the presidency had disregarded;— Also that President , on a certain occasion, had made use of language to one of the Twelve that was unchristian, and unbecoming any man, and that they would not submit to such treatment. The remarks of the Twelve were made in a very forcible and explicit manner yet cool and deliberate
Joseph’s Reply. I observed that we had heard them patiently, and in turn should expect to be heard patiently also; and first I remarked that it [p. 690]
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